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Phil Gue
28-11-05, 04:18 PM
If you set up a session, using simply pair names, is there a (quick) way to make these pairs into an event field (for adding a new session).
This occurs when using (bridgemates) to enter player names for each session (using a club no.) but then you wish to make these pairs (discrete) in an event field for accumulating scores from previous sessions.

ianmac
29-11-05, 08:03 AM
To help understand the management of pairs let us look at the LISTS of pairs available in the ASE Scorer.

In any event that has outright results (ie multi-session or multi-round events) there are three lists of pairs to consider.

1) The pairs before the movement is known. This is a raw list with no pair numbers assigned even though you can place the pairs in tables and seats and reorganise as needed. This list is not essential and often not used. It is generally only useful at the start of the event.

2) The session field. This is the list of pairs in the session (ie initially session 1) and is setup for any event be they single or multi-session events. This is the list of pairs playing in the session and may differ from the outright list of pairs because of substitutes in any given session. The pairs have been allocated their SEATING, their pair numbers for the SESSION and their OUTRIGHT numbers.

SEATING: the seating can include section, table and direction. For example a pair sits in section 2, table 3 as EW.

SESSION: the pair number for the session often reflects the seat the pair is in and is based on the movement in use. In the example immediately above, if the movement was a Mitchell, the session pair number could be simply 3 (EW). "The pairs use their table number as their pair number on the score sheet". In a Swiss pairs event that would not be the case as all pairs would have a unique number, usually between 1 and the number of pairs competing.

OUTRIGHT: the outright number is the number used in each session (also called the EVENT number) to tally their outright totals. Pairs typically look for that number in the outright results as well as looking to find their seat in the next session. The outright number in a Swiss pairs event will typically match the pair's session number.

3) The outright field. This is a complete list of all pairs competing in the event. Typically this list is the same as the list in each session, but may not be. Substitutes may be playing in any session, or a pair may drop out of the event after playing in one or more sessions (eg illness or other misadventures).

ianmac
29-11-05, 08:13 AM
In the help file take a look at "How do I..?" "Assign pair numbers in an event".

Usiing unique pairs numbers solves the type of problem you are talking about.

Therefore we are running a multi-session events with the pairs having unique numbers. Each pair has one number and no two pairs will have the same number in any session or outright.

The event and all sessions will have one winner.

The first session.

When defining the sections assign the pair numbers using [Pair and table numbers] button under the advanced options. e.g. The first section is set up as a 13 table section with pair numbers 1 to 13 NS and 14 to 26 EW. The second section is added and the pair numbers are defined as: 27 to 39 NS and 40 to 52 EW.

The names are entered under session [Names] [F4] or when using BridgeMates the get names option is used. The reports do not show the section number but only the pair numbers. The event report is requested and produced. The event and session reports only show one field and one winner.

Second and subsequent sessions

Define the sections using the pair numbers identical to those used in the first session.

ALL PAIR NAMES ARE AUTOMATICALLY LINKED TO THE PREVIOUS NAMES via the unique pair numbers. Only substitutes in the second session will need to be entered in [Names] for this session.

Therefore if you are using BridgeMates you would not need the players to enter their player numbers in the 2nd session.

ianmac
08-12-05, 06:39 AM
The next release (SP18) has an option to do the outright field names automatically.